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Undirected

Unfortunately most religions around the world know not what they worship, and with a devastating consequence. Undirected meditation is just as destructive as no meditation at all. This is not a slandering of any religion but only that they are misdirected as to where their meditation must be directed. And without that vital piece of information the world will continue to be ineffective in its quest for world peace.

There is only 'one' mediator between God and man ‘the man Jesus Christ’

Supreme observer

As we obverse the ever changing face of our humanity, we ourselves are changed in the viewing, coming is the awareness that we are not as we see (within this discernible plane) nor are we what we think we are in the physical. As the observer as well as the observed, we are only what we are aware of, only what we ultimately accept as perceived reality. Though the limitation of our corporal input stifle our innumerable abilities beyond what our senses allow us to discern.

Every single one of the billions of bits of information, which bombard our body’s processes at any given moment, is astounding within this multi-layered biomechanical dimension. Amazingly enough though, we only acknowledge about two thousand of those bits through our given sensory perceptions, and it is only those bits of information, which are pre-associated by a reoccurrence of similar information which we have previously adhered our consciousness’ too i.e. memories.

Because we are not in the ultimate vantage point of the ‘supreme observer’, there are to us appearances and disappearances of energy winking in and out of our plane of observance, therefore in and out of our point of view, thus they are in, ‘and out’ of our realm of consequential influence. When these energies are within our realm of observation and interactions, the tendencies of matter is then expressed ‘as particles’ as observed through our holographic mental model, which we form, as we experience these energies.

Furthermore the unobserved energy is its self unencumbered of our observances and tendencies of manipulation, it acts therefore uninvolved ‘as a wave’ waiting to be conjoined through the interaction of our mental influence, unto a purpose. The predisposition to manipulate according to our previous encounters of associative memories, cause those energies to fire habitually through reoccurrences within the synapses of our brain. Forming that which is a commonality of response, which we begin structure our lives around.

Energies that fire habitually as a result of the pursuit of the reoccurring stimuli produced by the construct of preconceived associations of what is the perceived reality, drives us to seek out those same constructs which caused those stimuli to be observed in the first place within our brain i.e. ‘forming a habit’. The association of emotional addiction has come to a commonality within societal acceptances, which further forms a vast acceptance of this

reality, as being concrete when, in all perceived reality is not.

The Rev.

Time Space Gravity,

Throughout the expanse of the Super-verse, there are notable inconsistencies in the observances of known procedural measurements of time, and distance, as the space between galaxies increase in their vibration speed, as the Super-verse expands, there are fluctuations of gravity, and time, and the effects on matter alters the Super-verse as axes of multiple galaxies moves into their respective places across the Super-verse. In response to this interaction of spherical quantum wave the effects on matter increases. As the atomic vibration of all matter speeds up, it is changed into its ultimate state, (a higher level of matter,) and as we are carried along for the ride, within the vast layers of spherical waves, (which is not to say; that we do not have anything to do with the resulting effect.)

Because we do, we are instrumental, as well as incremental in this enormous emanation. The incremental increase of our own personal atomic signature influences all other matter around us weather they are molecular, atomic, or subatomic in construction. As is the effect of even larger spherical wave layers are emitted from us, and these vast super-galaxies, neutron stars, giants red, blue and super, dwarfs yellow, red, and white nebula, and many other variable star classifications – (Ia, Ib, II, IV, V, VI, VII) along many other entities within the Super-verse, this will eventually increase geometrically to their ultimate state of destination i.e. a Supernatural culmination of the Super-verse.

Encompassing even that which is presently inconceivable to the natural mind, but only to say that all things will change to favor the new prevailing matrix of the ever morphing Super-verse, thereby, resulting in revealing in us (new abilities) one of the least of which is, the ability to move in and out of the Super-verse without any gravitational, or anomalistic distortions because our higher vibration, which will supercede the effects of all other opposing vibrations. No longer being of the previous lower vibrations i.e. previous natural flesh, which we have lived in to this most recent age.

By this we will finally move beyond the physical realm, into the fullness of the supernatural. Although this vibration is changing all things natural, aligning to its supernatural origin, even now it is reaching out even to the seen, and even to be felt by those who are unaware of these present occurrences. The new vibration of this new life’s entity will carry out all the desires imaginable, not limited to those preconceived by religious ideologies, then will be so far beyond what man has conceived. We will become aware of all the massive amounts of higher life, than ever thought or imagined possible.

They are and shall be our companions through our birthing into maturity. We are being aligned with the very pulse and vibration of all that is within ourselves individually, and most of all within our collectivity. We are no longer alone, now being united to the whole of the Supreme. No longer convoluted by distorted vibrations emitted by the destructive forces of lower life forms vibration, we are free truly free in every way.

The Rev.

Jump species

The genetic proclivity of each species is embedded within the genetic code of any given animal. Which lies dormant until the activated genetic material within is awakened by the on-set of a drastic environmental change. The genetic change begins to bring forth subtle adaptive changes to the species, to cope with the environmental change, but does not change the species it self.

The Rev.

A waste

The problem is, that you consider 'everything contrary to your beliefs, ‘as crap' when in fact they are very salient points to the post. You have from the beginning set yourself as a self-appointed enforcer of content of 'all' posts, quashing them, if they do not meet to your limited standards of belief. You believe yourself the mouthpiece for the entire forum, enforced by the non-responses of those of different standings than your own.

And, because of these non-responses you believe them to be despondent to the subject matter, when in fact is because of your inability to stay on topic, the remainder of the room can’t respond as need because to the thread, as it has been averted by your insulting tangencies. I have yet to see you respond to any of my post, and stay on topic without your infinitesimal attitude towards me, and other Christian over taking the subject matter of the post, and then a pile-on ensued by your followers.

And, as long as you continue to result to these tactics you only reveal that all of your years of study have been a waste, not being able to express your thoughts without insults, (which is a sign of a weak mind.) So, remember that when I, and others express our beliefs, they are true beliefs and not just fodder set out for consumption, they truly are heart felt.

The Rev

Splintered

Contrary to carnal knowledge, intellect is not a sound form of interpretation of the scriptures. The author of the Word structured it so, as to keep the natural mind from contaminating the Word with carnal interpretations of spiritual things, which pertain to God’s nature. As a result of man-made interpretations, (which have no effect, upon the sons of God) the Word of God has been compromised, and deluded by the understanding of those whom have no ability to correctly interpret it (by the spirit,) which brings the church under the influence of denominationalism, (the picking, and choosing of select parts of the scriptures to form their own belief system i.e. (demon-nations) this has caused the church to become splintered in its ability to carry out its commission.

To rightly divide the Word of truth, therefore to suggest that it takes intellect, or common sense to comprehend the Word is not the truth, by any means. If God required the intellectual to interpret the Word, then He would have revealed the truth to the intellectual leaders of the day i.e. the Scribes, and Pharisees, but He did not, He revealed Himself to the unlearned, and the common, and even to the uncomely. The religious leaders touted (‘For He eats, and drinks with sinners’) assuming that He has some how disqualified himself from being the true Messiah because He did not associate with the religious.

The very peoples who assumed that they process full and complete knowledge of the scriptures were the very peoples whom Jesus scoffed for their lack of discernment, and compassion. Just as the atheistic, and scientific community has done today, it sets itself as the authority over all things intellectual, which includes the belief in the non-existence of God. Unfortunately they too shall be as the Scribes and Pharisees were in that day ‘scoffed’ by the Lord Most High! Until, there is a reveling of the Lord to the World as a whole through His sons.

The Rev

Xenophobic belief

I have noticed, that those who hold to the belief of ‘no God’ do continue under the premise that the accumulation of knowledge is as complete as it can be, under the present understandings of the scientific community. This brings an entirely xenophobic belief to that cumulative knowledge, of which is only understood within a very limited capacity, i.e. within the human mind, but which is assertively presented by the scientific community as the ‘exhaustive completion of that knowledge’, which is used to attained to formation of their belief in ‘no God’.

This is a total dismissal of every substantial procedural law of research ever established. They have deduced their scientific conjecture, to fit their own intolerant belief that no knowledge is greater than man himself. And, that man is the ‘be all end all’ of any given attained understanding, and that he is the origin of it. And until the admission of faulty research practices by those who try to disprove the existence of God, there will be no true understanding of ‘Science in its truest sense. Because the scientific community fails to concede their deceptive practices, and those who understand that will not take them seriously. All knowledge comes from a much higher source than man’s own mind, from God himself.

The Rev.

Measurably equal

In order to have an adversary, there must be a relative power measurably equal between the enemies. There is not such measurability common to God, and satan. Only between what man thinks satan possesses, and what man possesses is an equally measurable power.

The Rev.

Tread lightly

The Bible - is the only book ever written which can reveal the one true invisible God, and man'’s relationship to Him. It is a graduating formula through which will bring all of Mankind to his fullness of maturity, through experience of the natural realm and of the senses, in full contrast of the Spirit.

It is a true and accurate record of man'’s history in the flesh on the Earth. It is a precise culmination of mathematical perfection, down to the last jot. It is the God breathed word of truth to man. It is the mind of God. It is all wisdom unto man until the end of the age. It is the Door to Eternity.

To search spiritualism without a clear goal in mind can be very unsettling, and even in some cases dangerous. Because of the nature of the spirit realm there are areas which can penetrate through to the inexperienced soul and deluded it unto servitude, often unaware to the immature soul, not to imply any immaturity on you'’re part, but only of you'’re inexperience in the spirit realm.

Tread Lightly

The Rev.

Unencumbered

Man is a glass, empty and clean, with no guile, malice, pride, or deceit, nothing but potential. That is, until he walks through this world of sense. Held, he becomes slave to all six of his masters. Clinging to him with every debase thing which leeches onto his vulnerabilities. Vexed of all manner of imaginations, and delusions of self. Accompanied by, reasonings of those which have vexed his virgin soul to the enclosure of flesh itself. So, longing to be free and unencumbered but with gain.

The Rev

Thanks

I would like to take a moment to thank all who have responded to all of my posts, weather or not they where in accordance or not. I have gleaned a great deal of insight into the human psyche.’ Under a myriad of various pressures, I have observed many mind-sets from many different educational classes of people. I consider it a great privilege to be apart of the kind of arena, where all kinds of beliefs flow freely. I would like to thank you all by name, but I would probably forget someone whom needed to be mentioned, and I would not want to do that, so I will just say ‘Thanks to all of you equally.

The Rev.

Rigidly pertain

I'm actually quite confused here, isn't the Christian religion a monotheistic religion?

Yes, but all mankind believes in God, but He is called by different names in different languages.

Aren't all other faiths inherently wrong from within a monotheistic religion?

No, only faith pleases God, not belief.

Why do Christians seem to care if people believe in god or not, if it makes no difference one-way or the other?

Because, there is only one mediator between God and man the man Christ Jesus.

And if it makes no difference, why do Christians always tell me (yourself included) that if I don't believe I'll burn in hell.

I have never stated that, only your assumptions have.

And for the record, only your caricature versions of scientists 'rigidly pertain to science as 'fact'. In the real world scientists are quite open to new evidence that falsifies their theories.

I am only stating those who base their beliefs on those who are not teachable.

That doesn't mean they can't hold a very accepted theory (like gravity or evolution) as fact in the meantime. Congratulations, you created a caricature of scientists that aren’t rational.

No, only your understanding of what I have stated, has created that image in your mind.

The Rev.

The key

In the contemplation of multiple dimensions, within this Superverse there are possibilities of dimensional shifts within parallel dimensions i.e. realms of existence through faith and the use ‘oscillating strings’ transcending in and out of this respective reality.

Such as the appearance of Moses and Elijah with Jesus on the ‘Mount of transfiguration’ as the exercise of the power of faith of the Holy Spirit in Jesus, this is also given unto His sons. This is the 'key’ to bringing the manifestation of the God’s Kingdom to this realm through faith.

These are the abilities, which are freely given to those whom are the called according to His purpose. This, by no means, excludes anyone whom may come.

Mat 17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, and James, and John his brother, and doth bring them up to a high mount by themselves,

Mat 17:2 and he was transfigured before them, and his face shone as the sun, and his garments did become white as the light,

Mat 17:3 and lo, appear to them did Moses and Elijah, talking together with him.

P.S. Please note that there are those who apply scientific theory into their applications of faith. This is so blatantly disputed by those of science.

The Rev.

Non Sequitur

As the definition states – an inference that does not follow as the logical results of what has preceded it. As have all other of your posts to me 'they have not followed the preceded topic stated. They have not kept a consistent train of thought throughout, you just keep bringing the same tired inference into every thread I state. And you will continue to until you get the response you want.

so good luck with that!

As well you know timing is everything, and when it comes to response, given the questioner or provocateur ‘such as the case may be,’ has a chance to stew in their own assumptions as to the character of the respondent, because of any perceived delay in response, then being demanded to answer only under the questioners conditions. It should be a consideration that the restrains upon the question, by nature places a restraint upon the response itself, and it is not an intended avoidance. But only a non sequitar

The Rev

Beware the fool

The anger of the ‘fool’ spills forth as the bile of an enraged sicken dog.

Always, in hunt for a soul to vomit forth its guts upon. Sickened by its own ghastly fare, of carrion of dead understandings of naught, consumed daily, in its hunt to infect all others, innocent. Given to delirium from its hollowed gut, howling from the depths of rage, within its disease-ridden corpse. The vary hunger of ‘Death’ itself seeks all whom it can engulf. For the misery of the fool seeks all whom it can sway into its foul consumptions. To bring them to depth worst then that of them who infected them into this rage of emptiness. Never quenched in its on going upheaval of bile to all who will lap it up in ignorance.

‘Beware the fool’

The Rev

The order

‘Where are you in the order of creation?’

God created – Dark, Light, The Heavens, and Earth, and every creeping thing

God formed - Man

God set – Man over all things, which He created

God commanded – Be and multiply, subdue and take dominion

God recompensed – Because you partook, you shall be subject to vanity

God judged – Man under good, and evil, and the elements of the Earth

God destroyed – Man of good, and evil, the Man of flesh

God repented – Forming the Man of the earth

God restored – The Righteous One

God created – A leader from among Man, Moses

God formed – The New Covenant of blood with Man

God set – The Last Adam – ‘Christ Jesus’ the head over all principalities, and powers

God commanded – Authority should be ours who are the Overcomer of all things, through sufferings.

From before the foundations of the Earth, God enveloped Himself in flesh, and set Himself within the physical realm through Us, ‘formed Man.’ To establish a relationship of love throughout all His creation in every realm of existence. Bringing us ‘in Him’ through the experience of all things possible, in Him.

Under His guidance and protection of His love through all experiences. And if we believe His Word, and through His relationship to us, we will overcome all that He has set before us. Then We are manifest, His ultimate creation ‘The Overcomer’ who sits in His throne with Him in the highest realm of the Heavens ruling and reigning over all things.

The Rev

God's name

· Elohim (God)

· jehovah/Yahweh (the self-existent one: I AM)

· Jehovah-jireh (the Lord will provide)

· Jehovah-rapha (the Lord who heals)

· Jehovah-nissi (the Lord our banner)

· Jehovah-Shalom (the Lord our peace)

· Jehovah-ra-ah (the Lord my shepherd)

· Jehovah-tsidkenu (the Lord our righteousness)

· Jehovah-shammad (the Lord is present)

· Jehovah-Elohim (the Lord God)

· Jehovah Sabaoth (the Lord of hosts)

· El Elyon (the most high God)

· Adonai (our master)

· El Shaddai (Almighty God, the strength giver)

· El Olam (everlasting God)

Sake of analyzing

Ya, I kind of forgot that feeling I had inside myself. I like studying religions for the sake of analyzing, but generally dislike their intentions. They all have some underlying sense of corruption underneath.

Carnal human nature is by design corrupt, even those of faith are subject to vanity (not willing.)

I'm not one of those people who say "religion is good" or if "religion is good if it makes you happy." People who say that kind of thing really don't know what they are talking about, and it usually comes from people who never investigated it.

(Jam 1:27 religion pure and undefiled with the God and Father is this, to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation--unspotted to keep himself from the world.)

Religions are organizations that propose some sort of ultimate truth, and to agree that they are all ok is a highly dangerous thing to consider. Imagine the controversy and heated arguments (oh wait, it's too late for that)

(No one (denominational affiliation) can posses the truth, the body of Christ in whole must acquire it. Each individual, supply’s its own unique perspective on the truth.

1Co 12:21 and an eye is not able to say to the hand, `I have no need of thee;' nor again the head to the feet, `I have no need of you.’)

"Church" is a lost term as well. Church is really the body of members who are spiritual, or adhering to god. It's now deemed as equivalent of the building in which the church members come to congregate. "Going to church" is a misnomer.

(One can not go to one’s self ‘We are the church, it is not the building.)

Whilst I agree that relying on a human teacher is non-ideal, it's also questionable to rely solely on the Bible itself.

(God has given to us a myriad of resource accompanying the Bible, to bring a truer understanding of its content.)

There is enough reason to believe that that particular document has been tampered with, and is probably just as reliable as another man's knowledge.

(True and it is a purposeful allowance by God, to cause these of faith to seek out the truth, which is hidden in plain sight.

One needs to rely on him the most, and by that I mean to follow one's intuition as to what is true for them and what's not.

Amen!

The Rev.

To commune

To understand the processes and discernments within dreaming is to understand the functionality of the spirit within the construct of the physical mind, and body, and its relationship to its respective parts.

The spirit is the part of man which transience the limited abilities of the mind, it is the part of man which can bring the carnal mind into the unseen realm of the eternal, thereby giving the mind the ability to commune with the spirit realm through symbolism and visional stimuli via dreaming. The spirit is without guile and cannot deceive the soul or the mind of the dreamer.

It only speaks truth through a pure form of communication, (‘seeing is believing,’) but only if you can receive the interpretation from the ‘spirit of you’re mind.’

God has given man the ability to commune with His spirit directly through prayer, and through dreams,

Act 2:17 And it shall be in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;

These are not- “a string of unstable, disconnected perception that our minds try to understand by impressing our a priori conceptions upon it.”- But they are a purposeful communicate of God’s spirit to our carnal mind by the unveiling of truth through the firing of designated synopsizes within the brain to produce the desired visional display to the visional cortex.

This is not by chance, or is it a haphazard firing, but it is a multi-dimensional relationship between the spirit and the mind.

The point is! That not all that you’ve heard is true, God does not judge for eternity. Judgment is only as long as is needed by the offender. And not one second longer, only man’s concept of judgment is that it is eternal when the word tells us it is only for a measured span of time (forever, and everlasting) are chronologically based measurement of time, they are not Eternity. If it were it would have no need to state twice in various scriptures. Forever, and ever, it is a measurement of an age, not eternity. As well as the term everlasting it is the measurement of time, and not eternity.

The Rev.

The value

If God is as you say ‘indifferent’ to suffering, then why did God place ‘Himself’ in the flesh and die for us to set us free from sin, and imperfection?


God could do as you say, but it would not bring to completion His ultimate plan of salvation for ‘all’ mankind. Every son must be chastened, when he is disobedient or he is a bastard child.

Example: Just as a professional body builder brings his body under tremendous sufferings to grow it unto the desired condition, so also does God bring man under sufferings to grow man into the desired creation i.e. perfection. This is the plan for ‘all God’s sons.

The all-encompassing reason for God bringing suffering unto mankind is so that through man’s sufferings he learns obedience to the spirit of God’s Word. And, so that man will retain every experience that he has, and so that he will not take for granted the gift of eternal life given to him, in Christ Jesus. He will know the value of what God has given unto him.

And that (He) God has suffered, died, and rose again the third day, so that we could in time of weakness drawn upon His strength for He has suffered everything which He has subjected man unto, yet without sin, being our propitiation.

So, for you to repeatedly say that God is ‘indifferent’ to our sufferings is ‘not’ fact because He has suffered for all mankind, taking our place on the cross for our disobedience.

He did it freely for all, so that the principalities would no longer have control over man, he is free from the darkness of this world.

P.S. The reason you can't accept this as fact, is because you don't know it is fact, and you 'never will' until you receive Jesus Christ as you personal Savior, and receive the Holy Spirit whom will teach you all these things.

The Rev

Minimal intervention

Let’s take a different view of this whole issue; let’s just say for all intensive purposes that God does exist, and that He is the origin of all of our inherent predispositions of behavior specifically in child rearing. Our built-in tendencies to love and care for our children are not mere instinctive, but are a true inherent gift from our Creator.

This would also give us the understanding that the best way to teach your child is to let them learn for themselves with minimal intervention, other than where safety is the issue. As we all know ‘experience’ is the best teacher. In order for mankind to be able to grow beyond his original formation (childhood) man had to have something which he previously did not have i.e. the ability to evaluate his own actions, (just as a child does in learning) and to compare those actions to the actions of his Father, in who’s sight he is always.

So, mankind needed a new point-of-view with a corresponding understanding as to the result of the fulfillment that point-of-view, with its actions. So, mankind was given the ability to grow into a new realm of understanding, he was given the desire to be more like his Father, so he desired every kind of knowledge ‘just like a child.’

So man began to hunger for more than what he had, so as a result of this newly found hunger, man partook of the ‘tree of the knowledge of good and evil.’ O’ by the way man (his spirit) was not deceived, only his soul desired to know more, and through to the lack of understanding his newly awakened mind ‘through reason’ (the serpent) convinced him to eat, so the soul took it and gave to his spirit, and the spirit received it. And the rest shall we say is history.

The Rev.

Diluted by

In God, man is, then man manifested into flesh, a pure spirit placed into an enclosure, which as a result brought mixture into his soul, prior he was of pure light, white, and without variation, but now he has been diluted by darkness, so man has been taken from light, and has been exposed to varying degrees of darkness, just as a pure light, or color is hued into another light or color, so also has the soul of man been hued down into a lesser mixture of light.

I would like apologizing to anyone who may take offence to the posting of scripture, but it is truly necessary.

2Pe 3:8 And this one thing let not be unobserved by you, beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day;

one thousand years is one day (after the fall,) because there was not time until man fell.

So before the fall they’re where no corresponding references to measure time because there was no time.

From the formation of man to the fall of man, there was no time frame because man lived in eternity with God until he fell, and we have no point of reference to know how old man was because there was no time, so the animals, and man both could have been millions, or billions of what we consider years old.

Note: animals where formed before man, and lived without dead until man was formed, and then fell.

Gen 1:20 And God saith, `Let the waters teem with the teeming living creature, and fowl let fly on the earth on the face of the expanse of the heavens.'
Gen 1:21 And God prepareth the great monsters, and every living creature that is creeping, which the waters have teemed with, after their kind, and every fowl with wing, after its kind, and God seeth that it is good.
Gen 1:22 And God blesseth them, saying, `Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and the fowl let multiply in the earth:'
Gen 1:23 and there is an evening, and there is a morning--day fifth.

The great monsters
These are the dinosaurs...

Notice the animals where living before man without death, and science tell us that the Earth is billions years old, so time was not introduced until the end the (sixth day)

Gen 1:26 And God saith, `Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over fish of the sea, and over fowl of the heavens, and over cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that is creeping on the earth.'
Gen 1:31 And God seeth all that He hath done, and lo, very good; and there is an evening, and there is a morning--day the sixth.

The Rev.

Assessment

My assessment of Religion within the Church,

There is a proven fact that most people would rather let some one else do their (studying) for them, and sadly enough this is even more the case in most of the churches of the world today. The congregation would rather have their Pastor / Teacher tell them what is truth, instead of going home opening their Bibles and finding out the truth for them selves, simply put (mind-numbed-robots) fill most of our churches today.

There are so many hidden things within the Word of God, which God has placed there for man to discover, and they will remain hidden until the church comes to the realization that no one will uncover them for you, most Christians don’t even know are there, because they are led around by their nose following after ‘a man’ instead of studying and showing themselves approved unto God (not unto man) a workman who needs not be a shame, rightly dividing the Word of truth. Men would rather believe a lie, even if it comes from the pulpit.

This is why there are so many (denominations) an i.e. schism in the body of Christ, and this is one of the biggest reasons why the world thinks it’s all (bullsh*t,) and to be bluntly honest, I don’t blame them. There are so many instants where cooperative correspondence between churches are necessary, and the hermeneutics’ of the Word must be relay to further build a corporate message unto a network of churches around the world, and that the required understanding of those hermeneutics are sorely lacking, in most of the predominate churches today with devastating results upon the people.

Not even to mention proliferation of damned doctrine of devils, which still permeate the churches today. Causing the people to fixate on a future event, when the true revelation of God’s word comes from within, and will ‘not’ drop out of the sky like many believe today. ‘O’ wake ye that are simple minded, how long shall ye be simple?’ and seek not the truth? ‘Sorry, had to give prophecy to that those who love lies.’

The Rev.

Focus

Just as your cute little boots are an inanimate object, with no specific paranormal abilities, so also is the Ouija Board. But, there is a clear and distinct difference in the intended functioned of the game, and you’re cute little boots.

It is by design a tool which facilitates people’s ability to focus their own spiritual abilities onto the game, thereby giving a real source of power to the game, from the player’s themselves. Their mental and spiritual projections are manifest in the function of the game.

Under the control of the most powerful of those present among the players, there is a focal point ‘if you will’ establish among the players, and offend the most power spirit drawn to these manifestations of power are not among the players themselves, but of those whom the focused of power has attracted. It is the power of those involved within the game, which gives the game its power.

The Rev.

More inner

All thought is by design, repetitious, to the establishment of a set of neural pathways i.e. ‘memories’ within the brain. Dependant upon the recipient’s ability to relate to the establish path way, i.e. ‘memory,’ will in turn allow the mind of the individual to establish more like-kind path ways.

Others, received inner or outer stimuli will also continue to develop the mind-set of the individual, given to the formation of the ability of the individual receive more outer stimuli, then inner, this will constitute the ability of the individual to believe in the seen rather than the unseen world, the reverse process of receiving more inner stimuli will in turn develop the individual’s ability to believe in an unseen world.

The Rev.

Trapped in

Most would say I'm human trapped in a state of mental flux, not really knowing anything for sure. And others will say I’m a spirit trapped in a mental flux, not really knowing that I know everything, but something inside knows I do.

Consciousness - is a function of the soul, (given upon the formation of man, by God) so to interpret all sensory stimuli, and that stimuli is then relayed unto the spirit, then it is by discernment, determined to be either good, or evil, once discerned then the interpreted information is relayed the back unto the soul, for mental processing.

The Rev.

Commodities

Unfortunately There are written prophecies which must be fulfilled, and to make a ‘really long’ story short, there are a remnant of people which shall be the inheritors of the promise, and it ain’t Kansas, it is the Earth the way it is meant to be, without thorns or thistles, or killing. But in the ‘mean’ time man has a strangle hold on the peoples of the world, selling their souls as commodities, to the fulfillment of their lust.

The Rev.

Before entering

Within the construct of the determinable is a commonality of thought with those of a

Predestination theory. ‘The Alpha, and the Omega -The first shall be last and the last shall be first’ All knowledge is not contiguous ‘as in a methodology of study’ as most would think but it is dimensional, one must graduate from the one dimension, before entering into the other.

There are strict requirements, which must be met before one can move into the other dimension, which is where all new ideas are discovered.

As I do believe in the free flow of ideas, I believe most strongly that conflict is the whole point of discovery, without it there are no expansion of mind, and emotional exploration of the spirit.

I do agree to a point that those of faith should have their own place within this forum, but with free access to all who would reply, with the understanding of what the outlining premise is within the forum, that being said I would love to be a part of the evolution of this room.

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Their hold

The manipulation of the human life span has been under the control of an elite group of neo-cons for hundreds of years, with accomplices within the distribution infrastructure. In fact the human ‘average’ life span is a promised 120 years, but the unfortunate control of the conglomerations of higher technologies, as stunted the nature abilities of the human body.

The processing of our modern life-style has forced mankind into a pressure-cooker environment with considerable health repercussions as a result.Heart attacks, strokes, high blood pressure, diabetes’s, and many other casual condition profligate by design to further secure their hold on the populous of the world.

And to increase the overwhelming gain of those whom trade human life for profit, and it will continue, because the average citizen will sit in the simmering pot until it boils, but then its to late.

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To vanity

I think that before I get started in my response I must say that if you are unwilling to accept any of what I tell you, then you have made up your mind about God, and nothing anyone says to you will make a difference. With that said I will continue, but it is all up to you to receive.

Because I think the idea of an infinitely powerful, totally good God creating a universe with suffering is illogical. I will explain this so-called contradiction if you are will to accept the answer, first just because man can not grasp the reason for God’s action doesn’t mean it is a contradiction. The reason for suffering is because God does not want an assembly – line creation,

He wants man’s realities based and founded upon the experientialism, so that man in his ultimate state will stand independent of all outer dependences. To be like God is. Throughout the whole of man’s experiential life, learning is founded in cause and effect, and there has not been any attempt to sugarcoat this fact from man.

Which was introduced in the fall. God had to subject man to vanity so that man’s experience would be totally uncontaminated by any other outer influence, other that what each individual man would experience in his own life. ‘You’re experiences are yours alone, no one can take them from you, you have earned the understanding which came from those experiences.

God never told man that his life would be suffer less, but He did tell him that there would be consequences to his actions, because of the application of laws on his life, yes and they are laws of reality. Just as is true, with all living things under ‘cause and effect.’ My response to every bit of that is that an infinitely powerful being would not HAVE TO do anything man says.

God has to be held within the confines of His law within the Word, which I previously stated. God is all-powerful, and His all loves, and He will do as His will, because He is God. And His ways are not ours, and for any man to even try to question God’s motives is folly, that being said: God’s purpose for man is to be just like Him without lack, without need, without boundaries. The reason for evil, suffering, and pain is teach man compassion, and long-suffering, and patience.

These are truly required if man is to rule over all things which is God’s promise to man. The difference between God and man is that God is in full understanding of His actions, and man is not, Man must learn control over him, if there is any way for him to be in control of anything else, much less the whole of creation. I think more importantly is that your conclusions are based from a misunderstanding of God, and His ways in your youth, build up anger and resentment toward God must have been reinforced by a roll model of sorts so time in you life, and this has founded in you a unbalanced view of God, and it ‘is’ a misunderstand, but only that.

If you say that God cannot do that, then you are saying he is not infinitely powerful.
The most powerful characteristic of an omnipotent God is the ability to show long-suffering when it comes to disobedient children; God has set out a fool proof plan into action which when followed will bring man to a state of being that is beyond all realms of limitation, and pain, he will stand as God does ‘infinite,’ and unmovable by any other power in the super-verse.

You know as well as I do the best teacher is experience, even when it pains us to see the one’s we love suffer, this is true of God as well, I mean God is our Father, and it pains Him when we suffer. But, there has to be a full range of experience for man to suffer through, so that there will be nothing which is unknown unto man. Because God shall reward him with ‘all things’ yes that means ‘all’ the act of obedience is a very small and insignificant price to pay for eternity in paradise.

But God made a propitiation for to ultimate experience, which is death, His only begotten Son. For if it was not for Him taking our payment for our disobedience we would all have to be snuffed out like a candle. The idol mind is the devils playground, and man, if that's not a 'prison' nothing is...!

It is the world pulled over your eyes to blind you from the ‘Truth’

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Third eye

‘No self’
is the ultimate unchained ability of the spirit man; it is the returning of the spirit unto its original state along with all of its miraculous abilities, unencumbered by the limitations of the carnal mind, or the elemental laws of the earth.

It is the unification of the whole of spirit of all mankind, spirit, soul, and body, united yet separate, and corporate in ability, and in resources. An endless flow of truth, and enlightenment, it is the incorporation of all human intellect and knowledge attainable by the individual without limits. It is the highest attainable realm of knowledge, the third eye of understanding, the Devine eye.

This is the event, which is awaited by all of creation, the fulfillment of prophetic foretelling throughout all human history. It is the end all of all human transient nesses the culmination of all tests set before man from the Garden of Eden on. It is the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

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Named all

Those of logic would want God's people to admit that God is held to (the laws of what man considers to be reality) but God is only held by self-imposed limitations which are not a set scientifically based constructs of human reality, so to answer in the limited way they keep demanding is to state an untruth. God limitations are still beyond the total exhaustive abilities of man’s laws, weather they are of human reality or not. I have stated the same 'truth' over, and over again, but still don't like the answer I've given. So stop asking.

Yes, that is a proven fact, but only because man would rather believe in his own arrogance, and diminished mental abilities.

For those who still think that modern man is an intellectual giant, and (before you start patting your collective selves on the back,)

Take this in to consideration:


Adam before the fall, named all living things on Earth by himself, all of them.

Over 1 million different known species of insects,
Over 2,000 different species of snakes,
4,629 currently recognized species of mammals,
quoted estimate is 20,000 species of fish,
not even to mention the billions of microbial life on Earth.

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One of Us

Let me first start by setting some standards, which are true throughout the Bible. There are many types and shadows depicted within the Word of God these are occurring throughout the whole of the Bible. As many of those who’ve studied the Word for years know that these types and shadows are allegoric in nature and are used to speak to the peoples of today. ‘Through examples.’

By example, these set the framework of a true application of the life within the Word of God. As I am sure you know that the one referred to as ‘The Lamb of God’ is Jesus, He is both the lamb, and the Son of God and Jesus all in one. I would state here that I do not intend to preach to you, but I feel I must elaborate in much detail, for there to be a clear understanding of what I speak of.

I will use scripture references when necessary.

God spoke to man and said in

Gen 2:17 and of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou dost not eat of it, for in the day of thine eating of it--dying thou dost die.'

God hold man ‘the day you eat, is the day you die.’ Here man has no understanding of death or dieing, so this only stirred man’s desire to know ‘ as God knows’ for what did God say when man eats?

Gen 3:22 And Jehovah God saith, `Lo, the man was as one of Us, as to the knowledge of good and evil; and now, lest he send forth his hand, and have taken also of the tree of life, and eaten, and lived to the age,' –

It is not that God didn’t want man to be eternal; but that He didn’t want him to remain inexperienced in the knowledge, which he now possessed, now a balanced mind would teach him. Man was created perfect in all things, which pertained to light, and goodness. But now man has a new understanding - Evil.

Gen 3:4 and the serpent saith unto the woman, `Dying, ye do not die,

Gen 3:5 for God doth know that in the day of your eating of it--your eyes have been opened, and ye have been as God, knowing good and evil.'

The serpent is the newly found ability, which the knowledge of good and evil now revealed to the soul, or to the womb of man - or ‘the woman’

Why do you think that people who are evil are referred to as snakes, because they are evil in their soul, and in their thinking? This is where the woman the heard the serpent in her own soul, and she gave to her husband ‘the masculine, ‘the spirit of man and he experienced evil in his spirit!

Gen 3:6 And the woman seeth that the tree is good for food, and that it is pleasant to the eyes, and the tree is desirable to make one wise, and she taketh of its fruit and eateth, and giveth also to her husband with her, and he doth eat;

The soul has all these reasons why it needs all these comforting things, but through experience the soul finds it really doesn’t need thing it needs God’s Word to be fulfilled.

The soul of man is never satisfied; it is always in need of reinforcement of its own security.

The woman is the reproductive part of man ‘the womb of man’ if you will, remember the woman came out of the man, so now his reproductive abilities are now in the woman, this means his spiritual ability to reproduce as well are now in the woman –‘ the soul.’ The ‘woman is the soulish part of man’ and they will not be able to reproduce in God’s image until they become one again.

Gen 3:7 and the eyes of them both are opened, and they know that they are naked, and they sew fig leaves, and make to themselves girdles.

God asks, where are you, not because God didn’t know where they were, but to show the man that in God’s eyes nothing had changed only mans perception had changed, as revealed by this statement.

Which God asked ‘who told you, you were naked? And the answer is ‘the knowledge of evil in their soul, -the serpent,’ told them they were naked. of the tree of which I have commanded thee not to eat, hast thou eaten?'

God wanted them to be honest and confess. But they didn’t. This not because God didn’t know they ate.

Gen 3:13 And Jehovah God saith to the woman, `What is this thou hast done?' and the woman saith, `The serpent hath caused me to forget--and I do eat.'

My evil mind caused me to believe a lie, and I rely on things more that I do you God.

Gen 3:14 And Jehovah God saith unto the serpent, `because thou hast done this, cursed art thou above all the cattle, and above every beast of the field: on thy belly dost thou go, and dust thou dost eat, all days of thy life;

Because you would rather put your confidence in your own evil thoughts instead of my voice, and I let you live in the most depraved, and perverted way of thinking there is, and you will life in it every day.

Gen 3:15 and enmity I put between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; he doth bruise thee--the head, and thou dost bruise him--the heel.' So your soulish mind with be at odds with my Spirit, you will not believe in me, I will not allow you to see my in your soulish mind, you mind will be weak, and unable to see me.

Gen 3:16 unto the woman He said, `Multiplying I multiply thy sorrow and thy conception, in sorrow dost thou bear children, and toward thy husband is thy desire, and he doth rule over thee.'

Through suffering will man reproduce, and through hard labor will you gain things.

Gen 3:17 And to the man He said, `Because thou hast hearkened to the voice of thy wife, and dost eat of the tree concerning which I have charged thee, saying, Thou dost not eat of it, cursed is the ground on thine account; in sorrow thou dost eat of it all days of thy life,

God did not curse man, but the earth on which he lives, and through hard labor, and the sweat of your brow shall you eat bread.

Gen 3:18 and thorn and bramble it doth bring forth to thee, and thou hast eaten the herb of the field;

Now the earth will fight you all the way of your life, and through experience shall you learn good and evil.

Gen 3:19 by the sweat of thy face thou dost eat bread till thy return unto the ground, for out of it hast thou been taken, for dust thou art, and unto dust thou turnest back.'

Gen 3:20 and the man calleth his wife's name Eve: for she hath been mother of all living. Notice God did not called her Eve, but man did, God called ‘Them’ Adam. Because they are one flesh.

Gen 3:21 And Jehovah God doth make to the man and to his wife coats of skin, and doth clothe them.

It is not the skins of animals, but it is the skin you now live in.

Gen 3:22 And Jehovah God saith, `Lo, the man was as one of Us, as to the knowledge of good and evil; and now, lest he send forth his hand, and have taken also of the tree of life, and eaten, and lived to the age,' --

Gen 3:23 Jehovah God sendeth him forth from the Garden of Eden to serve the ground from which he hath been taken;

Gen 3:24 yea, he casteth out the man, and causeth to dwell at the east of the garden of Eden the cherubs and the flame of the sword which is turning itself round to guard the way of the tree of life.

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Who subjected

First God gave man ‘desire’ to do what? Anything, Everything!

God subject man to vanity, not of man’s will (clay has not will over the potter) but by reason of Him who subjected the same ‘in Hope’

Hope for what? To have a mature creature of God, knowing all the gifts of God.

God put the tree (symbol of grow and of knowledge) of good and evil, to ignite man’s desire to know. It wasn’t a trap it was so that man could begin to grow into a balanced mature creature.

Man only knew of good before he fell, so man had to come into a new realm of knowledge through experience.

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Eaglet out

Take an Apple slice it into a million pieces; hold that millionth pieces in your hand ‘what is it?’ An Apple! God is the same, man has sliced God into a million views, but take that millionth view what is it? God’s omnipresent touch.

By God giving man forbidden understanding, it caused in the Man a curiosity to know the unknown. If anyone can understand that it’s a scientist. It is inherent desire to be more that what he is. To know good and evil to be like God knowing all things.

Yes, He kicked us out of the nest just as an Eagle pushes an eaglet out of its nest, to fly. If you recall man took the knowledge with him out of the garden. Fulfilling the workings of the law to bring man to the understanding of perfection. Man had to be subjected to vanity to grow beyond where he was which was unbalanced knowing only good.

I would only say this that ‘God’ is so totally out of the box, and this is why many refute the fact that they can put God in that box. O’ there is no self-absorbed delusion on my part, thinking that I am God. But I do know it is he who is speaking through me, which is totally absurd from a scientific point of view.

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An artisan

Lo, I--I have prepared an artisan, Blowing on a fire of coals, and bringing out an instrument for his work, and I have prepared a destroyer to destroy.

What is the destroyer made to destroy? Your haughty flesh mind, believing that you know all the answers, or that you are in control of your life.

Man can't see beyond his own self-image that includes how he sees God. 'The God you see, Is what you'll be.'

If you see God as a moody teen than that is the self-image you have of yourself.

One cannot see beyond one's own limitations

Man projects his own frailties on God

So, this will give you a true evaluation of your own self worth.

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Criteria

The Fall of Lucifer was the result of an ignorance of his part, in God’s plan. So, God has placed him into a realm of correction, and will remain there until he learns what he lacks.

Just a little footnote:

It will be so horrifying to know that those who reject the unseen realms, because of it being unable to meet a limited set of criteria within a single arena of thinking, and as a result of this, spend the rest of their immortal existence whaling and gnashing their teeth because they failed to extend their own abilities into that which they were created for…

The graduating levels of obedience, which are motivated by the related corresponding tool of operation. Their personal level of experience of the Spirit defines each.

Child – Hell, Suffering, Pain, Rejection, Isolation,

Teen – Heaven, Bliss, Joy, Oneness, Belonging

Adult – Love

These are true methodologies, which are needed to mature the child of God unto full maturity. Just as our children are conditioned in life to respond to stimuli so also are the children of God conditioned. Every parent chastened his or her child to maturity.

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Of dark matter

Within any given number of galaxies the mass of these galaxies ‘flux.’ Thereby the gravitational stimuli is increased, and decreased within the fluctuation of their respective masses. Therefore the trajectory of these galaxies in relation to one another is altered within the respective distances of these galaxies, decreasing mass, and results in decreased interaction between the respective galaxies.

And the increase of mass increases interaction between the given galaxies, and over a period of time these galaxies will increase their over all reaction speed by the increase and decrease of the gravitational force of their respective mass. Are the reaction of these respective changes in mass, and their related reaction the result of dark?

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Of vocabulary

Amateur psychoanalyst.

‘I would not even have to respond.’

Again the observation is the whole reason of this conversation, but an assumption is made to demean my interaction within the forum. As for being an amateur;

'See above response'

If the post applies to you then by all means reply, I recall the lesson of like many times before. To those whom does this not ruffle, and who can see it as it is I say ‘Bravo!’ The first instinctive reply is to justify the acts of these few, when I would rather have the individuals themselves reply. And not just regurgitated stand-bys by those who feel the need to justify the leaders’ opinions, which they have at their beckon call, for the asking, but truly to reply to the observations.

These are statements supported by numerous observations of select members, to name them would be to give them even more reasons to rebuttal with labels, and categorizations, and vulgarities of those whom they dislike or disagree with, so that would be fruitless. As most of you know, I am relatively new, so I have not yet been swayed by those who take the forefront, and who would rather spew obscenities rather than give a reason for their disagreements.

These have reoccurred over and over again, by the same few members, and who will continue to do so because of self-enforcing supports within the forum. They spew a vulgarity, which seems to be a cover for a lack of vocabulary, or esteem whish is the opposite of what they are trying to convince all the others is the fact.

People are not blindly following the people who post their opinions; they probably just don't care enough to contribute.

No, they do contribute with a systematic spontaneity, which is only there to reinforce with blinding obedience.

No one is pushing an ideology here.

Maybe not, per say, but defiantly obvious in their dismissal of the disagreed opinion.

Observations proven in real time…

But I don't think naming those who are aware of these actions would do any good, but to incite more flamboyant diatribes whit which they could further reinforce their insecurities.

I know that these individuals know who they are, and it is not any of you who have responded calmly, and intelligently.

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